Dirty Secrets in Obamacare

[foxyrider]

Chuck Norris of all people, has discovered some great info in the proposed health plan

Dirty Secret No. 1 in Obamacare

http://townhall.com/columnists/ChuckNorris/2009/08/11/dirty_secret_no_1_in_obamacare



[[[[ In addition to granting the SOCIALISTS access to your checking account so they can draft $$ for this bankrupting program you also will be required to let them tell you how to rear your children.Is this the first step in the UN CHARTER of kids rights? ( google united nations children rights and you will find out children are allowed to do all kinds o f things if they do not agree with their parents ]]]]



Health care reforms are turning into health care revolts. Americans are turning up the heat on congressmen in town hall meetings across the U.S.

While watching these political hot August nights, I decided to research the reasons so many are opposed to Obamacare to separate the facts from the fantasy. What I discovered is that there are indeed dirty little secrets buried deep within the 1,000-plus page health care bill.

Dirty secret No. 1 in Obamacare is about the government's coming into homes and usurping parental rights over child care and development.

It's outlined in sections 440 and 1904 of the House bill (Page 838), under the heading "home visitation programs for families with young children and families expecting children." The programs (provided via grants to states) would educate parents on child behavior and parenting skills.

The bill says that the government agents, "well-trained and competent staff," would "provide parents with knowledge of age-appropriate child development in cognitive, language, social, emotional, and motor domains ... modeling, consulting, and coaching on parenting practices," and "skills to interact with their child to enhance age-appropriate development."

Are you kidding me?!

With whose parental principles and values?

Their own?

Certain experts'?

From what field and theory of childhood development?

As if there are one-size-fits-all parenting techniques! Do we really believe they would contextualize and personalize every form of parenting in their education, or would they merely universally indoctrinate with their own?

Are we to assume the state's mediators would understand every parent's social or religious core values on parenting?

Or would they teach some secular-progressive and religiously neutered version of parental values and wisdom?

And if they were to consult and coach those who expect babies, would they ever decide circumstances to be not beneficial for the children and encourage abortions?

One government rebuttal is that this program would be "voluntary."

Is that right? Does that imply that this agency would just sit back passively until some parent needing parenting skills said, "I don't think I'll call my parents, priest or friends or read a plethora of books, but I'll go down to the local government offices"?

To the contrary, the bill points to specific targeted groups and problems, on Page 840: The state "shall identify and prioritize serving communities that are in high need of such services, especially communities with a high proportion of low-income families."

Are we further to conclude by those words that low-income families know less about parenting?

Are middle- and upper-class parents really better parents?

Less neglectful of their children?

Less needful of parental help and training? Is this "prioritized" training not a biased, discriminatory and even prejudicial stereotype and generalization that has no place in federal government, law or practice?


If you can control the children, what they learn, what they experience, then you'll eventually will control everyone.

Just wondering how long it's going to take before everyone wakes up?


I was worried about this administration in the beginning but now I'm getting scared!

[Ol' Gringo]

I don't want to make anyone mad, but I am a High School and College teacher and I can tell you for a fact that there are a lot of parents out there who are not doing a very good job of raising their children, and could use some help. I will also say that the majority of the children with emotional or behavioral problems come from divorced families. Again, just my observation as I interact with students at school.

I guess Hillary Clintons catch phrase of, "It take a village to raise a child" comes from the fact that the parents spend all their time cussin' each other and overeating, so we need somebody to show them a little discipline.

[foxyrider]

I don't want to make anyone mad, but I am a High School and College teacher and I can tell you for a fact that there are a lot of parents out there who are not doing a very good job of raising their children, and could use some help. I will also say that the majority of the children with emotional or behavioral problems come from divorced families. Again, just my observation as I interact with students at school.

I guess Hillary Clintons catch phrase of, "It take a village to raise a child" comes from the fact that the parents spend all their time cussin' each other and overeating, so we need somebody to show them a little discipline.

I'm not going to disagree with that there are a lot of parents that don't have a clue, or worse are abusing their kids. But what about the ones that aren't, does the government have the right to teach those children different moral or moral values just because they can?

I grew up with a in Canada with a entire generation of Native Indian kids who had no identity and were addicted to drugs, booze and crazy, because when they the Canadian Government decided that they would be better off being raise in Catholic boarding schools. These kids were ripped out of their homes away from everything they knew, their culture, religion and families (in some cases were forced to use different names) all because the government in their infinite wisdom decided that they'd be better off.

Where does the line get drawn? And who decides? There are people out there who think that I should have given my son up, in fact I was pressured to do so. I was a good mom, no I didn't do everything right, but I did my best and under this system I don't think I would have had the chance.

[Dinero]

I don't want to make anyone mad, but I am a High School and College teacher and I can tell you for a fact that there are a lot of parents out there who are not doing a very good job of raising their children, and could use some help. I will also say that the majority of the children with emotional or behavioral problems come from divorced families. Again, just my observation as I interact with students at school.

I guess Hillary Clintons catch phrase of, "It take a village to raise a child" comes from the fact that the parents spend all their time cussin' each other and overeating, so we need somebody to show them a little discipline.

Second paragraph first: That's just her socialism coming out. She has sold out her life in exchange for power over others and is becoming more bitter as she ages. That is all she has left.

First paragraph second: That's a pretty broad brush you paint with. Many of the problems of today can be layed (or is it laid) at the feet of modern education as well. Mrs. Kerr made sure we actually knew Latin when I was in High School. Today's teachers teach to the TASS test so that they and the school receive good marks. Educating the children has taken a back seat to meeting some government mandated improvement scores.

How many teachers can you name that are there because they got the "calling"? How many are just over educated daughters that needed a profession?

Granted, my brush can paint just as wide.

Mary Jo lends Beth two Tylenols and both are expelled from school. Zero tolerance is not discipline. It is the escape of those with the inability to provide discipline and a little common sense. It is more about wielding power, however inappropriate.

Nothing personal here Ol' Gringo. Just some observations from the hinterland.

[Ol' Gringo]

I had a teachers son in class about 4 years ago who used to sit in the back seat and always acted sleepy, head on desk, not listening, etc. I knew he had problems, but his mother (teacher) was in denial. The next year I had a student from that class in my College class and he said that this boy was crushing oxycotin tablets and snorting them in my class. So, if you ask them and they say it's tylenol, is it?

And I will not even start on how far behind we are in education. Remember I am there every day I can see how we are dumbing down our education every day, because we want no child, "left behind."

Our education system has been bad for years, but we have always been a rich country. So when we needed an atomic bomb to end a war, we paid a German to make it for us. Now that our banking system is in the toilet, how are we going to pay someone to find a cure for our problems this time?

[Dinero]

Soros?


He already owns Obama.

[kd5cqt]

As you guys already know, I am now officially a retired high school/ college teacher. I agree that we have some serious issues , many compounded by the "No Child's Behind Left" program, but many just because the system will not allow the teachers that are capable to do what they know is the right thing. The political stupidity I had to endure is one of the major reasons I am now a "civilian". Teach the test?: Bite me, Mr. Superintendent. I prefer to teach my subject and how to use it constructively in the real world.
As for the previously mentioned provision of the Obamacare bill, I guess they have finally figured out a way to gainfully employ all of those sociolgy majors who couldn't find a meaningful job with their otherwise useless diplomas. It ought to be a hoot down here to watch as these rednecks and others chase the government idiots up the road at gunpoint.